A leading Stanford University expert has revealed he has fragments from a suspected UFO that could not be naturally-occurring material.
In a debate with fellow-scientists Brian Keating and Avi Loeb, Dr Garry Nolan took a sceptical approach to claims from UFO expert Tom DeLonge about so-called “metamaterials’ that had been recovered from a crash.
He said that there wasn’t conclusive evidence that the magnesium bismuth fragments shown by DeLonge’s To the Stars organisation were definitely from an extraterrestrial spacecraft.
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“It does have slightly altered magnesium ratios,” Dr Nolan admitted. “I've looked at that myself, but they're not so far off that they that they can't be construed as some other sort of reason for in in the in the making of it".
However, he said on Dr Keating's podcast, the fragments from an explosion in the skies over Ubatuba, in Brazil’s in Sao Paulo Province in September 1957, were much more interesting.
Ibrahim Sued, a columnist for the Rio de Janeiro newspaper O Globo, received a letter from someone who claimed to have seen a “flying disk” explode over the beach at Ubatuba.
Inside the envelope were a few small samples of debris from the crash. Analysis found that the fragments of magnesium were of a purity that simply doesn’t occur in nature.
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Dr Nolan added: “I have been given pieces of material from the the so-called Ubatuba Event. We did do a very detailed analysis using secondary ion Mass Spec of the isotope ratios of two pieces.
“We did it in the same instrument at the same time under the same vacuum conditions.
“One piece had perfectly conventional magnesium ratios, the other were way off. The only thing I can imagine is that it was manufactured".
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“I mean, so that doesn't prove it's a UAP,” Dr Nolan added. “That doesn't prove it was alien…
“It just says to me somebody back in the 50s spent a lot of money to change the isotope ratios and then blew it up over a beach in Brazil.
“So the only question that raises to me is – who would do that and why would they do it?”
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